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Some GIMers may want to look at the list of guns they plan to ban. Not sure I read when this will be voted on. high velocity tool show this weekend, wonder what I should buy. bushmaster toooo big fo little ol me.
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My wife likes her Sub-2000. It's reliable, compact, light weight, low recoil, accurate and good out to 100 yards. The downside is it fires a pistol caliber, either .40sw or 9mm. The good news is the longer barrel makes for extra speed which means a little more power than what you'd get shooting the same round out of a pistol. You can even get a version that will use the same magazines as your pistol if you buy both in the same caliber.
Anyway, stuff like this gets introduced constantly. Most never makes it out of comittee. You'll drive yourself bonkers trying to keep track of it all, which is probably the point. I would lean towards just accepting that we live in a psycho police state where pretty much anything you like will eventually be illegal and with that in mind go about and buy all the guns, ammo, magazines and other toys you want while they're still available. We're probably a couple years away from another ban, but who really knows? I'll accept any reason to justify buying a gun I want. :emotions16: |
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I have a Sub-2000 in 9mm on order. They seem to be pretty hard to get. Hopefully I'll get it before the spring. :)
I think you could fold the thing up and throw it in a breifcase. :9536: |
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Yeah, the Sub's are unbelievably small when folded, much smaller than a folding stocked rifle with a 16" barrel even. You can throw them right in your laptop bag or whatever and cruise on down the street with nobody the wiser. It's a slick little carbine. The Bible says you're not supposed to covet another man's wife, but what about your own wife's guns?
They are kind of rare right now, I hear that's because Kel-Tec's resources are being poured into the PF-9 and their new bullpup rifle. That last one looks pretty sweet, too. Weird ejection system though, it spits spent shells forward through a tube that runs parallel to the barrel. |
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See, right now I'm torn between buying more silver nad buying an AR-15. The only place I'd really take the thing to shoot it would be an outdoor range. Sadly, there's only one that still exists near me that isn't too bad to drive to, but still a decent hike. So, I wouldn't really get much use out of it. I'm afraid it would turn into more of a conversation piece than anything else. In fact, I think I have just convinced myself to buy more silver. I'm glad we had this talk :cool2:
I did, however, order a couple more 16 rd mags for the CZ :banana: |
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Get something good because soon everything will be completely outlawed and then we will be rounded up to be put in the labor camps. Seriously...........I'm scared.:sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
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I don't much care for AR's but the Robinson Armament XCR has my attention as an alternative. Among other features it can be converted from 5.56 to 6.8 to 7.62x39.
http://www.robarm.com/xcrtm_modular_weapon_system.htm |
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I said this would happen before the elections.
Democrats are anti-gun, if you voted for a Democrat just to spite the Republicans don't be surprised when stuff like this happens. |
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Price is relative. If you actually spec'ed out a standard AR-15 of decent quality like a Bushmaster to build a rifle roughly equivalent to the XCR you'd go way over the XCR's price. Actually just converting the AR-15 to a gas piston driven configuration would do that.
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I think that's Carolyn McCarthy. She wants to be first in line to wipe her a$$ on the 2nd amendment and is constantly trying to push through gun legislation. Nothing new there.
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Aside from Ron Paul I can't think of any politicians who give a darn about our rights.
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Ron Paul for President!!!! |
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Our electedpoliticians have never seen a gun bill that they didn't like. :censored: I would postpone purchase of PMs in favor of weapons and weapons training. Weapons and training are necessary for the security of yourself and your loved ones. :smile: Buy, buy, buy! :bath:
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I think I'm good as far as guns and magazines go. (though I'd still like to get my hands on that M1 Carbine, but that's another story)
Right now, my focus is on ammo. Not only is the price skyrocketing, I can see the dems restricting that soon, too. Grab it while you can. |
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Rob Arms gets a bad rep from some people but they aren't really crooks, they're just a small company that has had a tendency to bite off more than they can chew. They are also dependent on others, like Molot and various American-sourced parts for the XCR. While I'd like to see them scale their business to where everything is moving along smoothly, I don't need them to support my weapon. The Chinese aren't supporting my MAK-90, either. The first rule of survival firearms is buy everything you need right now while it's available.
Besides, the XCR shoots 5.56 right now and I've seen them at gunshows. Tangible product, if somewhat rare. Not quite the same as a pipe dream. What I really want though is an AK or RK chambered in 6.5x39. I don't mind having to roll my own ammo but time and money are factors. |
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Bah, it's been too late for me since 1994. The so-called assault ban ban has remained in my state despite the federal version expiring.
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Ick! No 6.5 Romy for me! Well, certainly not a WASR anyway. If you got a "good" SAR-1, refinished it and replaced the trigger group you'd end up with a decent enough AK, many of the SAR's were good shooters too. Still not the overall quality I'm looking for. A Saiga or Global Trade 1.6mm would be more acceptable stamped platforms for me.
For my 6.5 project I'll be going with a milled reciever. I like TFL's milled sidefolder, except for the cheesey logo on the side but that can be filled in. I had the 6.5 Grendel and 6.5x39 confused some time ago, actually I think you cleared that up for me. I'm up to my eyeballs in AK mags, the vast majority were bought for under $3 when Sportsman's Guide was having a supersale a year or two ago. Anyway, my main reason for switching calibers is the prevelance of armor these days. The 6.5x39 isn't going to pierce armor any better, but it will be a little more accurate and shoot a little flatter than the 7.62x39, so that will make hit exposed areas at longer ranges easier. AFAIK 6.5x39 isn't classified as pistol ammo either so unlike 7.62x39 there shouldn't be any issues with rolling my own AP. Lighter ammo doesn't hurt, either. 5.56x45 isn't my favorite round and not much use in my woods, but it is common and I can foresee ending up with much of this ammo and a great quantity of AR mags. I just hate the rifle originally designed to use them. Nothing like getting a jet of gas in your eye when you're trying to engage multiple targets and having your vision go blurry, never mind the fickle nature of the design itself. I've used everything from the FN's to the Colt's and Bushmasters, the Bushmaster performed the best but as a man who can have the rifle of his choice that platform just isn't going to make my list. It works well enough I suppose, but it really isn't a world class rifle. |
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I'm thinking about picking up an AR and at least one more AK. In fact if I hadn't just had a head on collision with a stupid assed terrorist deer I would be placing an order today.
Question on the ARs; how interchangeable are calibers? Is it just a matter of barrel swaps or is there more to it like ejectors etc? |
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I ain't going to no fu**ing concentration camp! :pissedoff: |
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How do we prove we purchased are sporting rifle prior to the ban? Do we need to carry our reciept with us where ever we go with one? What's to stop an overzelous cop from throwing our asses in jail because he see a so called "assualt weapon" and thinks "banned" this guy must be a criminal.
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FWIW...i went to National Gun Day yesterday and had a few interesting observations and conversations. First off, it looked like a big turn out. It was very crowded, moreso than usual it seemed, but maybe that was just because a couple of other things were going on too. Anyway, everyone was talking about '08. I myself was there to stock up on ammo. I was looking for some Golden Tiger or Brown Bear 7.62x39.
I only found one table that had either in a full case. He was running kinda low so I bought a couple cases and had him hold it for me until I was done looking around. He had three left. About 30 mins later I come back and they're all sold out. The guy said he sold more 7.62x39 and .223 ammo at that show than he could ever remember. I was also looking around for some decent .308 deals...there was none. When I talked to a couple guys that had high cap mags...same story. Selling them like hot cakes. Obviously nothing earth shattering or unexpected here really, but everyone seems to know that a storm is brewing. |
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FWIW, I read a post from a pro-gun lawyer who had tried to search for a case where an individual was arrested for violation of the AWB as a primary charge and he found none, anywhere. I think there may have been one or two instances where somebody was arrested for something else and that charge was tacked on. Most cops are not gun people and most gun people don't know much about guns either. It is very doubtful that that the average person could specifically tell whether your gun was ban compliant or not at a glance, even though it may seem obvious to you or I. Most people either wouldn't have a clue or would think that all scary looking guns were banned. In practice I wouldn't worry about it. Either nobody will care or a stormtrooper's boot will be pinning your neck to the ground. One thing's for sure, you cannot appease the federalists no matter what you do. |
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